Ron Paul: The Case Against the Income Tax

[kpfisher]

Originally Posted by taxesforfreedom

How about this for action! why don't we all take the good Dr.'s message of civil disobedience to a new level.(peacefully)
Why don't we hit them where it hurts...Their wallets!
Why should we continue to give these people our hard earned money, only to have them use it against us!
Lets all be the real Ghandis and MLKs of our time!!
Let them try and jail the whole nation!!

Why don't we start a National pledge:

We the people of the United States of America pledge to not FILE nor PAY any taxes to the federal government of the United States of America until our CIVIL LIBERTIES and the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America are restored!

How many people are willing to go the distance?

I think we should follow Ron Pauls example and try to change the system by being a part of the system. This tax evasion would be more bad PR that this campaign does not need.

[IcyPeaceMaker]

Good thinking, but let's see the campaign through first, and maybe all that will be unnecessary. We can discuss options later.

[onevoiceofreason]

The income tax, the IRS and the Fed are not going anywhere..The sooner Paultards realize that the better.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by onevoiceofreason

The income tax, the IRS and the Fed are not going anywhere..The sooner Paultards realize that the better.

thanks for setting us tards right comrade.

The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

Do changing words, change the end result? ... By using different words, is it all of a sudden OK to ignore or violate the provisions or intent of the Constitution of the united States of America?????

The people (politicians) who believe in the SOCIALISTIC and COMMUNISTIC concepts, especially those who pass more and more laws implementing these slavery ideas, are traitors to their oath of office and to the Constitution of the united States of America... KNOW YOUR ENEMY ...Remove the enemy from within and from among us.

[Conservative Democrat]

The politicians who will run this country for the next 4 years is in the bag, and neither will accomplish anything more than continuing on the present course. 2012 must be our target year for massive change in the national elections, but we should concentrate on change at the local level now.
We are so concerned about the abuses of our national politicians that we ignore the municipal and county leaders as they continue to spend and tax as if the coffers will always be full.
Quick case in point. Shelby, NC passed a local ordinance that will require a resident to pay a $50 service fee if their utilities are cut off for non-payment. Now, who would want their utilities cut off if they had the ability to pay their bill. Now, the town is adding a $50 service fee for re-connecting the service. If the resident can't pay their bill in the first place, how will they be able to pay the re-connect fee. This is a small case in point, but one I'm sure isn't isolated to this town. How can you justify this fee?
Every elected officials who voted for this ordinance should be removed from office immediately. If we don't bring change at the local, county and state levels we will never be able to change at the national level. This must be an effort that begins immediately. If there are groups organizing for this purpose, let me know. If not, give me input on the method or plan to begin this movement.

[RJB]

Originally Posted by Conservative Democrat

The politicians who will run this country for the next 4 years is in the bag, and neither will accomplish anything more than continuing on the present course. 2012 must be our target year for massive change in the national elections, but we should concentrate on change at the local level now.
We are so concerned about the abuses of our national politicians that we ignore the municipal and county leaders as they continue to spend and tax as if the coffers will always be full.
Quick case in point. Shelby, NC passed a local ordinance that will require a resident to pay a $50 service fee if their utilities are cut off for non-payment. Now, who would want their utilities cut off if they had the ability to pay their bill. Now, the town is adding a $50 service fee for re-connecting the service. If the resident can't pay their bill in the first place, how will they be able to pay the re-connect fee. This is a small case in point, but one I'm sure isn't isolated to this town. How can you justify this fee?
Every elected officials who voted for this ordinance should be removed from office immediately. If we don't bring change at the local, county and state levels we will never be able to change at the national level. This must be an effort that begins immediately. If there are groups organizing for this purpose, let me know. If not, give me input on the method or plan to begin this movement.

Good points. Joining a RP meet up group near you is a good place to start.